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The following is my first response to http://zentransformation.blogspot.com/ , I have spent many hours discussing and thinking on this topic and honestly have not written any of it down as the uncertainty is there in a full throttle way. Seeings as Dave has decided to write about his feelings towards this topic I feel it to be necessary to reply as to where I stand.
There was a time when I had no doubts what so ever towards this community and I believed in it more than anything I had ever believed in before. Yet now there is this huge burden of being numbed by the world, the whole romance, true love, meeting the right woman completely gone. The magic is long and lost things no longer just happen I have practiced my social skills thus I know when an interaction will go good or bad, I can predict how it will end and that makes it quite boring.
Pride fucks with all of us, I remember back in the day when I first started, making out with 12 girls in a night and not caring about a single one of them. It has lost all of the excitement. It was a hard battle and it sucked you could not open then you could but they would not hook and then you could and each time you got to that next step the high was more then before and you were rewarded for your efforts. And now there is no real answer just total uncertainty nothing but a muddy fog and the worst part is that there are few people in this community whom will speak publicly on this topic. I only know of Style and Ciceran and I definitely wish that more people would voice their opinions.
Once you have seen the world for what it is, can you ever close your eyes and ignore what you have seen? And if you can is it the right action to take? How can you ignore what you have seen, I have seen things that in my opinion are just as bad as murder. A murder happens in anger or self defense, I have had woman with kids, husbands, boyfriends, people whom they said they loved and would never hurt, people that they had bonds with and through that all away selfishly for their own pleasure. How can you omit this from your mind?
Alright so what are the options, drop off the map ignore seduction and believe that you will meet the right woman through the hand of god. Has god or some other higher power helped you with your education job even buying your house? and if you do this and end up meeting a woman whom you think is "the ONE" will you end up being another piece of the divorce statistic?
Or do you continue on with your mission to gain social skills and meet more people so that you have the highest chances to find the perfect girl? Even though if you do find her you will have to lie or not tell her about the things you have done otherwise she will run. Can you live with the guilt of knowing that you have omitted a huge part of your life, and that you have hidden your true self?
I have met a lot of great people in this community and a few whom I now consider my closest friends and for that I am very grateful. As someone who got very deep into this and wanted to teach I know find myself not only questioning my own involvement but if helping others get into this community is a moral thing to do. The worst part is both options are counterproductive, I do not drink unless for special occasions anymore and a lot of good things have happened but the numbness and disgust in peoples actions is huge.
Now I know that everyone in this section believes that having other things in your life is needed and I totally agree but even if you are doing this in moderation will you end up at this same result? Everything we have been taught as people growing up in this society has been erased and due to this I personally think that either way you will end up finding peoples actions ridiculous and repulsive.
RM discusses trust and I have discussed this through and through with many people and I wish to express that this far I only have one opinion that I cannot argue. Previously I wanted to get married and have kids and now there is no way in hell. After witnessing what I have seen I cannot put myself in that kind of position, there was a time when marriage was for good. That is no longer the case and why would I want to bring children into a world that is so Fucked up. RM quotes an author who said "if a woman is happy with her relationship their is nothing anyone can do to seduce her" and I would agree. The issue is that it is human nature that the grass is always greener on the other side, life is a roller coaster with ups and downs and this holds true to a relationship. All it takes for one low where you and your girlfriend wife or fiance get into a fight and you guys run different ways she goes to the bar with her friends and some young stud like you once were talks to her and makes her problems disappear. Her illogical and emotional side go to town and she is having so much fun, that she has not received in forever.All attention is on her, and the hatred toward you for taking her for granted lead her to giving in to her desires and being unfaithful. Adam and Eve, had everything yet they still ate the apple.
The only point that I have not been able to argue on this discussion is that of a leap of faith and I only know one person who has said he could do this. After seeing how deceitful and selfish woman are can you leave yourself open to getting hurt, being miserable and totally wrong about her?
Most people got in this as they wanted to be able to control our situations and now we want things to just happen, risky and unpredictable. Question is what is the right move now?
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- A Life Coach specializing in Men and their social interactions. Also while teaching he continues to study his three main interests including psychology, sociology and communication. This gives The SAINT new insight and perspective daily and as we can all agree "Knowledge is power". The Saint got here through many steps; he started off being a natural at a very early age. It was his genuine desire to help people that ended up in him taking time off of school to find himself. He had his new journey; he went on trying new jobs every three months hoping to find his passion. He dedicated all of his free time into understanding and exploring social interactions. After three months The SAINT, felt he was almost at his previous level but adapted a new motto; "You can never know too much or be too experienced" and so he pushed himself further. To the point that he landed an apprenticeship program with Mehow Inc. The only concern that Mehow had was that The SAINT maybe too natural too teach. In the end The SAINT decided that he personally could not teach for Mehow Inc as he did not believe in all of their Ideologies. This is how Charisma Concept came to be.
2 comments:
Adam and Eve only ate the apple because of an outside influence. Biblical doctrine dictates it was a snake. The symbolical representation of the snake could represent greed, sin, deceit, and everything we consider "bad".
This is narrow minded. As I see it, it is a perfect example of an environmental influence STIMULATING action and progression.
Who's to say the snake doesn't represent pleasure, love, joy, success or even neutrality? Just because there was a bad outcome in the story who is to say that stimulation of action is to represent everything bad? The snake TOLD them to eat the apple, it didn't stuff it in their mouths. They made the choice based on a stimulation of their senses.
We have discrete senses part of our "genetic machines" to interpret, influence, and manipulate our world. These senses allow us to interpret the realities and frames of reference of the universe. The realities and frames we experience as individuals are unique, yet they are relative to the SAME reality and frame of reference which we consider the universe.
When I talk of relativity, think of cars on a high way. If the highway is stationary, Car A is driving at 80km/hr and Car B is driving at 75km/hr those are relative to road. The reference frame is the road. Now if the frame of reference is Car B then Car A is actually driving at 5km/hr. Think about that for a bit. Now what if there is a big, fucking hippo moving in the opposite direction at 5km/hr? What are the relative velocities of the cars in reference to the hippo? Do the math!
Our frames and realities are reacting with the each other every day, every hour, every minute and every second. When your sleeping and when your talking to your next door neighbour, there is still some level of interaction with the universe as a whole. Even after you have finished talking with your neighbour, if he thinks of you later, you're frame is reacting with his reality.
In terms of trying to understand why women will cheat on their husbands, boyfriends, or lovers, well its a question that doesn't need to be answered because we already have the answer.
We did this to ourselves knowingly or unknowingly. The concept of marriage, raising a family with two kids, a white picket fence, and a nice house in the suburbs is a commercialized reality we reference our realities too. That is all it is.
The ones involved in the community have saw through this reality, blasted it, and planted a new re-engineered one. We have realized that women have evolutionary rules and we have merely learnt how to play the game with. I think that is why Style and Ciaren have left the community. It is because a frame of reference they grew up with has been replaced and it is a shock. Most have grown up through adolesence, puberty, and adulthood with the married life as a frame of reference. Its natural . Them quitting is how they handle the shock of realizing their reference frame has changed.
The word relationship is then again just a word. It really has no significance to any other animal . Same goes for marriage, a mortgage, and bondage. A lion will fuck who ever he has fulfilled a successful mating pattern with. Conciously he knows what he is doing and what to do. It is his genetic makeup that gives him the sub-concious map for driving this mating pattern. He knows if he fucks, it will pleasure him and eventually make a child. He may not interpret it the same way we do but he knows I'm pretty damn sure.
We as humans have an advantage as we have abstract thinking for action and progression. Learning the game is merely an act of genetic progression.
So if you ARE to take that leap of faith, there are only two outcomes. One YOU consider good and one YOU consider bad.
In the end an apple is just an apple. You can get a good or bad outcome from it, whichever way you bite it. If its good, you'll be full and it will let you live another day. If its funky, you'll get the worst shits than my uncle's special butter chicken recipe and you will regret it.
Eating it is just another leap of faith!
Style has written about this tendency to get over involved in both of his books. The can be found at any book store entitled "The Game" and "Rules of the Game" part 2 the "Style Diaries".
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